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hugh jars

hugh jars

St Paul's Bay, what a surprise. Ghetto of the island. Want a fight, any night, have a trip there!!!!

31/10/2017

hugh jars

hugh jars

freelogomaker Don't forget, plane ride. It is all these jungle bunnies know!!

31/10/2017

Charles Sammut

Charles Sammut

A conditional discharge is a Mickey Mouse sentence! Aggressive or not..this guy committed a serious crime where he grieviously injured another person. therefore he should have got a serious punishment and not just sent back home. But it is no secret that the Laugh Court is just another Disneyland..except not as organised!

30/10/2017

exasperated

exasperated

freelogomaker In a way we are lucky as he might have got on well with his friend and decided to stay.

30/10/2017

X Foater

X Foater

When a person is aggressive best is to keep them away as much as possible, in my view. In a perfect world the sentence might vary but there is also the conditional discharge, although it does not say what the conditions are. I hope that not returning is one of them, since he showed no respect to the rule of law.

30/10/2017

Charles Sammut

Charles Sammut

I just uttered my surprise that he wasn't given a suspended sentence, because this is the norm over here. I also asked who is funding his deportation..is he paying or are we...and did he pay for the court's time or did we? Quite frankly I don't give a monkey's brass ball whether he got a suspended sentence or a deportation order..but he DID cause a serious injury to another person, so did the punishment fit his crime? I bet he went back to Italy and told his mates " go to Malta, fight as much as you want, cause a serious injury to another person and you will be sent back to Bella Italia..provided you say sorry of course!"

30/10/2017

X Foater

X Foater

One has to be thankful for small blessing; another court might have kept him here. What would you prefer, a suspended sentence or deportation?

30/10/2017

Charles Sammut

Charles Sammut

Hi Magisty the Magistrate asked the offender " whether he regretted his wrongdoing"..I wonder had the offender replied in the negative what the punishment would have been. So he seriously injured his "mate" and because he said "sorry" ..all is well. Who's paying for his trip back to Italy? The Laugh Court does it again. Surprise,surprise..No suspended sentence....perhaps the Court Jester's Suspended sentences cupboard is bare!

30/10/2017

Joseph Borg

Joseph Borg

Yet another Multicultural Enricher. Comes holidaying causing Serious Injuries to his Friend, which injurious We have to pay for; Plus Court Expenses which We have to pay for; Goes Scot-free, Mission Accomplished !!!

30/10/2017

X Foater

X Foater

Welldone your Honour.

30/10/2017

So It Goes

So It Goes

It is racist to say that people cannot protest being brutally killed based on skin colour. Merely activating or being public as a single demographic is not racist. Racism is racist. That's you.

01/11/2017

So It Goes

So It Goes

No Sipho can't imagine. Racism clouds the view, quite completely.

01/11/2017

So It Goes

So It Goes

Yes so are we, the full sickness of racially obsessed South Africans on full display.

01/11/2017

So It Goes

So It Goes

Liars. If it is racist or supremacist to merely protest when significant numbers of your own are killed in hate motivated attacks, then racism is a myth. Trying to work apartheid into a very serious problem, because they have nothing else to offer. What are people meant to do, wait to be picked off? If marching against being killed "alienates " the majority in this country, the "majority" is indeed very sick. Oh and one last thing hypocrites: if "farm murder" is a euphemism for white crime victims, which it is, so is "majority" a euphemism for blacks.

01/11/2017

Donnie Marx

Donnie Marx

Not many white neigbours round here. Last 30 years of togetherness in the 'grey areas' and division lines grow stronger. (30 years is a generation) Whites cannot stand neigbourhood degeneration. Blacks hate forced gentrification which they didn't ask for. Whites flee. Come look at Hillbrow. It is not my culture. I do not litter. Ever. You get angry when I tell you not to drop your rubbish in the road. You say it creates jobs. It is an insurmountable obstacle. We cannot live together. Verwoerd was right. We have completely different cultures and culture is everything. Side by side - own countries is the only way. Or you must have the courage to say whites must leave.

31/10/2017

JenWebbe

JenWebbe

I have a theory here. Farm murders are so horrible and repugnant, that many people can't bear to read about them. It is a form of denial. The coffin assault was intensely traumatic for the victim obviously, but once it was confirmed that he was okay and he had escaped with his life, it became 'safe' to read about and to follows the news about th perpetrators being brought to justice. On the other hand, most normal people do not want to confront the vivid, grisly mental images that the mind conjures up upon reading about what happens to farmers and their families. Especially when there never seems to be any arrests, or prosecutions.The sheer number of victims,the viciousness and inhumanity of the attacks are appallingly distressing. We can hardly imagine the thoughts and the terror of little ones watching the violence done to their parents, before they too are slaughtered horribly. The inhumanity, the insanity, the wickedness of the perpetrators... beyond logical human comprehension. It is not disinterest - it is the horror that steers us away from these reports. I feel sure I speak for most decent South Africans when I say this. And yes, I wore black yesterday - not only for the farmers, but for all the victims and the survivors too, who have been terrorised by violence, crime, rape, assault and murder. We don't have to read all the horrendous facts, but we do have to know about them so we can protest against what is happening in this country. It is not about race, it is about lives - all lives.

31/10/2017

JenWebbe

JenWebbe

If people march against abuse of women and children by men, does that mean they are being sexist again men? If thousands of black pensioners were being singled out in their homes and tortured, raped and murdered by white criminals, would any protest against that be considered racist? If thousands of dentists were overwhelmingly being murdered by by gangs of criminals, would a protest held in their defence be considered an anti-gang protest? But somehow, when thousands of MAINLY white farmers and their families are murdered every year in South Africa, the protest against the murder of these unfortunates, is somehow racist? Please note that there were protestors against this horror from all race groups, since many farm workers are also attacked. During the Monday protests, there were no aggressive incidents, no burning and destroying property. That is, apart from a truck that drove into the peaceful protestors, wounding three, when the driver apparently, lost control of his vehicle. Try and imagine what it must be like to be a farmer. Put your imagination into gear and stand in the shoes of a white farmer who has lost many friends and relatives in the genocidal scourge of farm murders. And yet, even on the day of the protests this week...Monday.... yet another farmer was attacked whilst fixing his chicken kraal, hacked to death with a panga and left in his bakkie. Now ask yourself this: Who are the racists here?

31/10/2017

Spyti K

Spyti K

Why then do you condemn a protest action by a segment of the broader farming community as racist when it stands to benefit the entire farming community, both farmers and workers. God, I forgot how much of a troll you are and how conveniently you will twist arguments or ignore facts to suit your own agenda, which I am still unable to figure out.

31/10/2017

Manu

Manu

Why would a black person want to participate in racist project? You are only counting the murder of white farmers, but not the farm workers who live with them on the same farms. But you expect me to be sympathetic to this kind of crass and racialised treatment of crime on farms? You don't count my people as victims of crime on farms, but you want me to count your people? No. Absolutely not. I will not support racist projects.

31/10/2017

Spyti K

Spyti K

I am not unwilling to acknowledge that, but you, on the other hand, seem intent on extending that to the entirety of the protest action and dismiss it on racism grounds because of the actions of less than 0.1% of the people present there. This is nothing but the age old playing of the race card so that you can avoid the issue at hand; which is that the South African police force are failing to protect people living on farms. People who, incidentally, are 4.5 times more likely to die a violent, painful and illegal death than anyone else in the country.

31/10/2017

Manu

Manu

Oh and you want +70 murder of white farmers to receive more attention than the national murders of 19000 SA. Do you see the irony of your statement.

31/10/2017

Manu

Manu

If I live in Khayelitsha and protest service delivery in Khayelitsha, why should that solve service delivery in Constantia that doesn't have such problems? Why would a service delivery protest for Khayelitsha be racist if it doesn't discriminate between its residents based on race?

31/10/2017

Manu

Manu

The legality of the protests is not at issue here. What is at issue is intent and behaviour. If you don't what to acknowledge that apartheid flags were brought to the protests or that the protest had racist undertones that's fine. But I don't have to participate in your delusion.

31/10/2017

Brink Combrink

Brink Combrink

I think the fear is more than just "subtle", for Malema it is a HUGE fear, see https://citizen.co.za/news/south-africa/1709928/watch-uproar-over-farm-murder-protesters-singing-die-stem/ . Malema is so scarred of whites he cant help himself. Sies tog.

31/10/2017

Republican

Republican

RockRabbit, the media show even less interest in black-on-black violence/crime/murder. Frankly, the media find it boring when there is stories to follow such as a coffin assault. So who are the biggest losers? The black people in places such as the townships. You see liberals don't really care about blacks, it's the individual.

31/10/2017

Brink Combrink

Brink Combrink

"Black people in general tend not to take kind the rejection by the white world. " Why is it so important that black people be "let into the white world"? Do whites not live in the same world as blacks? Whites not subject to the same fears, struggles, hopes and ambitions as black people? When the government increases the petrol price, taxes, cost of living etc, does it not also affect whites? What is so different from the "white world" that black people do not take kind to the rejection of the white world? What do they want "in" on that is so special? The "white world" is no more special than the black world I promise you.

31/10/2017

disqus_2b8dpIM1y3

disqus_2b8dpIM1y3

Everybody was welcome, no invitations was sent.! Why were so few 'others' present..?? If you were really there, you should feel proud to have seen all walks holding hands & praying together...NOW THAT is what pist-off some 'others'....those 'others' that partook will be identified as traitors.!

31/10/2017

Brink Combrink

Brink Combrink

So when black people march (which happens every single day in SA) then it is not racism. When white people march (which happens almost never) the non-racialism project is dead? Who is the racist then???

31/10/2017

disqus_2b8dpIM1y3

disqus_2b8dpIM1y3

Wow ....some comment that make sense, if i understand correctly.!

31/10/2017

disqus_2b8dpIM1y3

disqus_2b8dpIM1y3

I do detect a subtle fear to see 'whities' standing up to demand their space.! Maybe the 'reaction' you refer to from police should be implemented at some 'Varsities'....especially the 'traditionally' black one's that are prone to continues disruption & vandalism from.... oh dear, sorry, not 'whities'....tch tch...!

31/10/2017

Brink Combrink

Brink Combrink

You don't like white people. How is that different from white people not liking you?

31/10/2017

disqus_2b8dpIM1y3

disqus_2b8dpIM1y3

Go play in the traffic...your racist comments do not belong in this country.! Go visit uncle Rob next door on a permanent visa. You will do well there.!

31/10/2017

disqus_2b8dpIM1y3

disqus_2b8dpIM1y3

And those singing 'kill the boer'....??

31/10/2017

RockRabbit

RockRabbit

The newspapers showed much more interest in the coffin assault than any of this years 70 plus farm murders , many with horrendous torture. Just goes to show who controls the news

31/10/2017

Spyti K

Spyti K

And I have stated that I find them and that symbol repulsive and again, are they more or less extreme in your mind than black people who sing Kill the Boer or display the slogan "One settler, one bullet" at protest actions or political rallies/campaigns. I can cite many more examples, but why bother when I'm not going to get a straight answer anyway. I put it to you that you're nothing but a racial troll and a coward because you can't answer me directly and in no uncertain terms.

31/10/2017

Spyti K

Spyti K

And what bed is that? That we didn't bus in enough black people to make up the numbers during a protest?

31/10/2017

Spyti K

Spyti K

Since you seem to be of the opinion that this was an act of racism and/or a general hatred of black people, please indicate to me where the hatred in yesterday's protests were? Incidentally, citing a minority of examples where people brought the Apartheid flag doesn't count, because there are black people at rallies/protests also displaying outright hate through struggle songs, placards and even depictions of white babies being hung, stabbed or otherwise brutally murdered. Interestingly the photograph spread by BLF leader Andile Mngxitama of the man and woman dressed in shirts that look like the Apartheid flag is seven years old already according to the photographer who took it. It seems his Bell-Pottinger masters taught him well...

31/10/2017

Spyti K

Spyti K

Okay, so white people joining hands with friends and family members is racist and cannot possibly be done out of of love, empathy for their situation or support for their cause? That's good to know for the next time COSATU affiliates embark on solidarity strikes with other affiliates. And you are ignoring the fact that being pro one thing does not equate being anti another, so I'll ask you again; why, in your mind, do black people have the right to protest against issues they feel affect them, but white people do not?

31/10/2017

Spyti K

Spyti K

All I can say to that is that you should really spend more time with farmers or in farming communities and stop gobbling up all the bs the ANC/EFF are trying to feed you. Yesterday's protests were about focusing attention on violent attacks on farms and all who live on them. No more and no less. It is only you and the ANC who equate it with racism because the majority of participants were white and because a fraction of a percent of attendees showed up with the Apartheid flag, despite the wished and instructions of organizers. 5 out of nearly 10 000 to my count, so that doesn't exactly equate to a majority point of view, does it? You also argue against yourself, because if a black community protesting bad service delivery would benefit all, then surely a white community protesting violence on farms would also benefit all. Why in your mind, is one possible and good, but the other impossible and racist?

31/10/2017

Human7002

Human7002

It really does unfortunately...we can call that hatred many names in the way its expressed, racism, prejudice, murder etc but ultimately the feelings, emotions and actions are driven by negativity and all the same.

31/10/2017

Mosi wa Maru Maroge

Mosi wa Maru Maroge

Yesterday's white protests were a reality check for many black south africans...The illusion of post race politics was shattered down and those who were idiotic enough to believe it have an egg on their face.... Black people in general tend not to take kind the rejection by the white world. My message to black folks, 'please grow up'

31/10/2017

Spyti K

Spyti K

No, I saw a group of people legally and peacefully protesting against something that affects them and have impacted their lives in a really meaningful way. Also, if you were at one of the protests like I was, you would know that there were actually a fair number of farm workers at the preceding prayer meetings (there was at the one I attended anyway), but since these were vehicular protests, they couldn't take part, since the vast majority of the vehicles have no space for passengers and loading all the workers on the back of bakkies is now illegal.

31/10/2017

Marumo Mataboge

Marumo Mataboge

It is interesting that whites in urban spaces also joined hands with the farmers yesterday, to pledge racial solidarity? You are ignoring the fact that race is and has historically been the main dividing factor in SA...

31/10/2017

Lerumo Mataboge

Lerumo Mataboge

hatred comes from both sides, isn't it?

31/10/2017

Piet Snot

Piet Snot

"However, white reactionary groups can blockade national roads with no consequences" Love this one - so much for equality in SA - the blacks do the blockading with out any consequences - and now you whinge - double standards indeed - what is good for the blacks is good for the whites.

31/10/2017

Manu

Manu

Here we go again. So I am racist for pointing out racism? Did you not see the racial inequality on display yesterday?

31/10/2017

Human7002

Human7002

Na the way I see it, the more the more the Government tries to twist everything the more and more they show themselves up. There are some people who will continue to believe, but I think that number is falling and falling fast. We can continue to work together and hope for best, or we work together and make the best possible...

31/10/2017

Mkabisto

Mkabisto

What you conveniently overlook is the fact that people who display the old flags are racial extremists themselves....

31/10/2017

Manu

Manu

Good try. Those residents who embark on service delivery protests don't protest on the basis of race. They represent all those who live in their area irrespective of race. Those white farmers (and their supporters) chose to make this about race even though others who live on the farms with them also experience crime. Imagine if in a residential suburb white residents decided to protest about 'crimes against whites' as if crime is limited to whites alone. That is a racist project. Somehow many have bought into this idea that the only victims of crime on farms are white. Which is not nonsensical, it's also racist.

31/10/2017

Piet Snot

Piet Snot

Yes the feeble police never act with purpose when the ANC cadres go on the rampage - like the white farmers did on Black Monday

31/10/2017

Piet Snot

Piet Snot

Yes - So then the next time I - along with others see some illegal "unpeaceful" destructive protest where all or the huge majority are black folk are the protesters I must assume it is a RACIST meeting - surley not! I rue the sad day when attitudes harden and eventually break - then many will be crying.

31/10/2017

Mkabisto

Mkabisto

If you make your bed, you must be prepared to lay on it...I think we have reached a stalemate and something has to give...Lets wait and see. One thing for sure is that the of tip-toeing around issues and suffering backward racists are over

31/10/2017

Spyti K

Spyti K

Oh white people and Afrikaners have been doing it themselves for years. I'm talking about private schools, taking their homes off the electricity grid, getting rid of farm/domestic workers and doing the work themselves, et cetera, but all this Government does is to turn it into just another way we are being racist or opposed to the Democratic Project and thus something to whip us for/with. We can't win in this situation, but that doesn't mean that we'll stop trying

31/10/2017

Piet Snot

Piet Snot

At issue here is that I have too been searching for all the news about the burning of vehicle, buses, trains, homes,municipal buildings and infrastructure and looting stone throwing. I did not find anything - so that is why the media were not really interested

31/10/2017

Human7002

Human7002

I agree fully with your point and yes economy of scale are important in various aspects, no single person could buld a highway from JHB to CPT. My point however, was more along the line of a government playing God and not servant as it should. Having no exposure to a correct and functioning government its hard for me to fathom a correctly working one and as such believe that if the government can't do it, why not do it ourselves?

31/10/2017

Sipho

Sipho

You are missing the point. We never lived together in the first place...Side by side perhaps, but surely not 'together'

31/10/2017

Spyti K

Spyti K

Aye, in a perfect world you could do that, but how many times will you fix that road before you decide to either charge people for using it or no longer repairing it because it being used by other people are the cause of its to degeneration? Also, repairing a pot hole or two is fairly cheap in comparison to building a new street in front of your house, you thus lose the economy of scale of a pooled fund. Now apply the same principle to all services like policing, water provision, electricity provision, education, healthcare and others and you quickly discover that "individually managed tax contributions" are an unworkable system. There is also a vast difference between a functional Government that does what it is supposed to be doing and a dysfunctional Government that constantly oversteps its bounds in attempts to expand or maintain its grip on power and, more importantly, money. We have the latter.

31/10/2017

Human7002

Human7002

Agree with most of what you said and I think this forms the crux of the matter...My question would be then, do we even need rulers??? I pay taxes and rates and yet my road has more holes than tar. Could I not invest that tax money myself into the road and subsequently fix it? Government has made itself the judge, jury and executioner on many aspects of our daily lives when they shouldn't be even that involved. " Everyone has the right to make his own decisions, but none has the right to force his decision on others. - Ayn Rand"

31/10/2017

Spyti K

Spyti K

No, it just goes to show that narrow racist views like yours and those of the protesters carrying the Apartheid flag are not as widespread as you would like to believe. It's quite heartening actually, far more heartening than the ANC's typical ostrich-head-in-the-sand press release cited here.

31/10/2017

Wilf Nussey

Wilf Nussey

What the ANC wants is a society in which everyone is black, when with whites gone terms like "non-racial" will be irrelevant. While the highly disproportionate killing of farmers might not be ANC policy there is no doubt these extremists like it because it gets rid of whites and off the land. An unsubtle and very stupid echo of Mugabe's methods,

31/10/2017