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Aleo44

Aleo44

What one writes is part of the personal ethics of a person. Unfortunately in Malta we are not averse to crude gossiping and being inconsiderate in hurting the feelings of others and yet we immediately take umbrage if we are personally even slightly slighted. The maxim of what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander certainly doesn't seem to apply in how we perceive what freedom of speech is all about. Also one of the fundamental reasons why ethics does operate in practice is not some higher order form of ideal behavior but simply the realization of the maxim "Do not do to others what you don't want done to you and your beloved.". Otherwise the time will come when you suffer the consequences.

31/10/2017

kaz cam

kaz cam

Bull crap!!The block comments that are anti PN Punto e Basta. hazeldean shopping centre

31/10/2017

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Kris. TOM blocks your comments for the simple reason that nome de plume remarks are not accepted . Perhaps your IQ is too low to realize that or to read the conditions

30/10/2017

carl barthet

carl barthet

T Rex hazeldean shopping

30/10/2017

Jimmy Ventura

Jimmy Ventura

Forsi biex ikomplu ma Toni, gabulu il banana. Cheer up Ton.

30/10/2017

Albert Mamo

Albert Mamo

Great article as usual from this very talented journalist. During the time of this stupid government in power, we have seen so much hate, but people are ready to fight back!!! Tony Zarb was a hamster during the 25 years of peace and tranquility. He was hardly even heard of, because he did not have the heavy hand of his labour government to back his ass!!! Now it's a free for all, so freedom of speech or not, the hate is still spread. What does that tell us. You guess!!!

30/10/2017

Stefan Grech

Stefan Grech

Just to hammer home your point with evidence Pieter: https://verubiss.blogspot.be/2017/05/a-thousand-times-woman-you-aint.html

30/10/2017

Stefan Grech

Stefan Grech

Fully agree Joe with every word. Re DCG's definition of 'freedom çof speech', yours truly has an archive-full of counter-arguments which DCG ALWAYS deleted - thank God for screenshots.

30/10/2017

Better Future

Better Future

When Zarb targets some badly chosen barbs and hurls them against PN women, all hell breaks loose. He is vilified, his clothes are hypothetically (although I could not know what was really in his accusers mind!!!) torn off him and stones are raised high ready to strike; and the President is damn requested to shorn him of any honours. When DCG used to do worse to both men and women of a different political persuasion she was glorified as an "investigative", "no holds barred", "true, upright, honest to goodness and sweet as a Mars bar" journalist. Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..... DOUBLE STANDARDS??? LE, MA TARAX!

30/10/2017

RayZammit

RayZammit

Well said Ms Cassar!

30/10/2017

JDoe

JDoe

"Not sure what we’ve been doing in the EU these past 13 years.".....Milking it!

30/10/2017

Zunzan

Zunzan

I will just comment on the heading. The waters were tested before by DCG, by il-Bocca and by that idiot from Brikkuni.

30/10/2017

pinocchio

pinocchio

there is even journalist do not know what freedom of speech means, I give you the right to say any thing but I put the fee of the court with mini mum 20000e to 60000e fin on fake news and lies Because we want the rule of law, and the journalist dotn care about the damage they can make so responsablety need to be on both side. Not like i have a opinion I put it on the paper dont care what the damage is gone be that not freedom of speech

30/10/2017

Pieter Hielkema

Pieter Hielkema

Given the vitriol and the pure hatred that has been aimed at Michelle Muscat - by wannabe politicians, wannabe "musicians" and hate bloggers, Tony Zarb's comment was mild, to say the least. The women who felt so insulted by Zarb never stood up for Michelle Muscat - even when vicious and sick comments were made against her whilst she was raising funds for charity. Once they found the insults against Michelle Muscat acceptable, nay, hilarious, it is only fair that they are subjected to the same themselves. centre

30/10/2017

Manuel Zammit

Manuel Zammit

This is what I wrote and what was removed by the "freedom of speech" loving Malta Independent on the publication of the names of the persons who were to address yesterday's demonstration in Sliema. "Andrew Borg Cardona - is this the lawyer of the "bitch" and "mof" refined speeches and the one wearing a hat and with the outstretched arm during the rendition of the Maltese National Anthem in front of the Law Courts - which he thinks are his personal domain?" This was accompanied by a picture showing this refined lawyer at the protest in front of the Law Courts.

30/10/2017

Joe Attard

Joe Attard

Freedom of speech in Malta is a political aberration:if you attack someone : its freedom of speech: if they attack you, its abuse! The late DCG blogs-RIP- were NOT a good example of freedom of speech; if anything these blogs were a caricature of freedom of speech ! No dissenting comment was ever tolerated! As for Zarb,s comments these are as abusive as Bocca,s rantings against labour bitches, and mother f.ckers; and as hateful as the late DCG's abuse against Labour women-( including President) humiliated and described in the most degenerative terms: low IQ,fat,short,bogans: in speech, clothing attitudes, unrefined,whores, corrupt, sluts running after married men etc etc! I wonder if any of the foreign journos have ever read any of her blogs!

30/10/2017

akweXxI

akweXxI

Indeed, the answer to your first question lies within. The freedom in and of itself is absolute. He is perfectly free to say what he wants; and in fact he did. He was not prevented from saying what he wished to say. This question as to consequences is different. Was it insensitive? I jolly well think so, but one can live with that ultimately. However, where free speech intrudes over other rights, then the law kicks in - hence the Criminal Code articles being cited as breached by this charming gentleman. And here is the key point: it is only the law that gives and restrains the right to express oneself. If you feel aggrieved, take it up before the courts; but do not block free expression at the outset - in a worst case by eliminating the voice completely. It is sad to have to be discussing these basic tenets of democracy in 2017. We are forest dwellers ultimately. Not sure what we’ve been doing in the EU these past 13 years.

30/10/2017

M Camilleri

M Camilleri

Free speech has its limitations, in that it is balanced against the right to be protected against hate speech, threats of violence, defamation etc. Mr. Zarb’s comments, seeing his role as a public figure and the context in which is was said, could have been perceived by the women there as a threat — they are prostitues, traitors and assassins. What does one do with women like that? His comment of ‘I am sure they will some someone to warm them up’ ... could be felt to have undertones of the kind of sexual violence threats women receive. If he did not think that some would feel that way, then he is even more stupid than he looks. No, it’s not a cotton-wool generation of women who are over sensitive. It’s a generation of women fed-up of being threaten to shut up (jew nigi ghalik u nifqak - said in parliament in 2016), of being told they are sluts, of perpetrators of domestic violence being lightly punished and of not being taken seriously. Do not compare Chetcuti’s onion comment to this, just for the sake of sounding non-partisan because there is a gulf of difference in the the context, meaning and underlying intent. One is threatening, the other is an insult.

30/10/2017

Kris

Kris

Freedom of speech is freedom of speech. Its either you accept it or you don't but certain people want it one way. I answer posts in the times of malta and malta independent without insulting anyone but I am totally blocked by the times of malta and sometimes blocked by malta independent. And one can see the editors of these dailies in the front line protesting for freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in Malta has an agenda from certain quarters.

30/10/2017

PETER MALLIA

PETER MALLIA

I agree with much of what has been said, however, comparing tony zarbs post to kristina chetcuti's is not right. One post is criticisizing a public figure appointed politically, the other is criticisizing civil protestors. Very different. Secondly, the fact that Zarb remains unpunished for such comments by his employers (joseph muscat only condemned after being questionned by journalists and after comparing it to other comments) also goes to demonstrate the state of the country. Free for all where no one is responsabile for their actions. But when you have yoir right hand minister and chief of staff caught with their pants down opening tax exading structures and nothing is done, than it is hard to imagine anyone bearing responsability for anything.

30/10/2017

The Navigator

The Navigator

To close the R40 million revenue gap: start by getting rid of expensive president Zuma and his corrupt cronies.

24/10/2017

Jack Klok

Jack Klok

Yep, talk is cheap. Only real money can buy the whisky.

24/10/2017

andre

andre

Pravin can thank JZ783 for handing over treasury to the man instrumental in bringing our SOEs to their knees in the first place. Poetic justice

24/10/2017

Mark Label 2

Mark Label 2

According to the Davis tax commission you can push it up until people stop thinking it’s good value, I think after the past two years, the only people who think it’s good value work in government and are thieves.. I suspect the tax avoidance rates of South Africa will soon hit the same as Greece, probably even better..

23/10/2017

Russ Wood

Russ Wood

I wonder if there's anyone left in the Finance Ministry who can tell Mr Gigaba about the 'Laffer Curve', showing that increasing taxation past a point leads to LESS tax income?

23/10/2017

Brendan

Brendan

Amazing, you can try fudge, move shift, but numbers and financials don't ever lie.

23/10/2017

Marty

Marty

I think you will find that most of that silver is stolen !

23/10/2017

Mark Label 2

Mark Label 2

Or option 4 : printing money

23/10/2017

John M Mundy

John M Mundy

Candy? Is this paper aimed at an American public? I think you mean 'sweets'. Also, you don't say 'made of' but 'from'. Who did Haribo write to, or where did they write the statement you quote? The way you wrote the line about the Brazilian labour ministry could be construed that the Brazilian government doesn't mind people being exploited. Why bother having a paper in English when you can't be arsed to use the language properly?

30/10/2017

Peter Sultana

Peter Sultana

Im not impressed at all,watching those working in the banana industry,you remain speechless.Slave workers exist in every country,remember that factory in Malta ?

30/10/2017

Bertrand Russell

Bertrand Russell

Makes you wonder about the accuracy of their news items in general. U iva mhux xorta!

30/10/2017

J. Scicluna - Rabat

J. Scicluna - Rabat

"Are made from slaves"? Do they melt slaves for these bears? OH! You meant, "are made BY slaves"! Animal bruelty or CRUELTY? What poor English!

30/10/2017