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Aleo44

Aleo44

What one writes is part of the personal ethics of a person. Unfortunately in Malta we are not averse to crude gossiping and being inconsiderate in hurting the feelings of others and yet we immediately take umbrage if we are personally even slightly slighted. The maxim of what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander certainly doesn't seem to apply in how we perceive what freedom of speech is all about. Also one of the fundamental reasons why ethics does operate in practice is not some higher order form of ideal behavior but simply the realization of the maxim "Do not do to others what you don't want done to you and your beloved.". Otherwise the time will come when you suffer the consequences.

31/10/2017

kaz cam

kaz cam

Bull crap!!The block comments that are anti PN Punto e Basta. noise cancelling headphones

31/10/2017

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Kris. TOM blocks your comments for the simple reason that nome de plume remarks are not accepted . Perhaps your IQ is too low to realize that or to read the conditions

30/10/2017

carl barthet

carl barthet

noise cancelling T Rex

30/10/2017

Jimmy Ventura

Jimmy Ventura

Forsi biex ikomplu ma Toni, gabulu il banana. Cheer up Ton.

30/10/2017

Albert Mamo

Albert Mamo

Great article as usual from this very talented journalist. During the time of this stupid government in power, we have seen so much hate, but people are ready to fight back!!! Tony Zarb was a hamster during the 25 years of peace and tranquility. He was hardly even heard of, because he did not have the heavy hand of his labour government to back his ass!!! Now it's a free for all, so freedom of speech or not, the hate is still spread. What does that tell us. You guess!!!

30/10/2017

Stefan Grech

Stefan Grech

Just to hammer home your point with evidence Pieter: https://verubiss.blogspot.be/2017/05/a-thousand-times-woman-you-aint.html

30/10/2017

Stefan Grech

Stefan Grech

Fully agree Joe with every word. Re DCG's definition of 'freedom çof speech', yours truly has an archive-full of counter-arguments which DCG ALWAYS deleted - thank God for screenshots.

30/10/2017

Better Future

Better Future

When Zarb targets some badly chosen barbs and hurls them against PN women, all hell breaks loose. He is vilified, his clothes are hypothetically (although I could not know what was really in his accusers mind!!!) torn off him and stones are raised high ready to strike; and the President is damn requested to shorn him of any honours. When DCG used to do worse to both men and women of a different political persuasion she was glorified as an "investigative", "no holds barred", "true, upright, honest to goodness and sweet as a Mars bar" journalist. Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..... DOUBLE STANDARDS??? LE, MA TARAX!

30/10/2017

RayZammit

RayZammit

Well said Ms Cassar!

30/10/2017

JDoe

JDoe

"Not sure what we’ve been doing in the EU these past 13 years.".....Milking it!

30/10/2017

Zunzan

Zunzan

I will just comment on the heading. The waters were tested before by DCG, by il-Bocca and by that idiot from Brikkuni.

30/10/2017

pinocchio

pinocchio

there is even journalist do not know what freedom of speech means, I give you the right to say any thing but I put the fee of the court with mini mum 20000e to 60000e fin on fake news and lies Because we want the rule of law, and the journalist dotn care about the damage they can make so responsablety need to be on both side. Not like i have a opinion I put it on the paper dont care what the damage is gone be that not freedom of speech

30/10/2017

Pieter Hielkema

Pieter Hielkema

Given the vitriol and the pure hatred that has been aimed at Michelle Muscat - by wannabe politicians, wannabe "musicians" and hate bloggers, Tony Zarb's comment was mild, to say the least. The women who felt so insulted by Zarb never stood up for Michelle Muscat - even when vicious and sick comments were made against her whilst she was raising funds for charity. Once they found the insults against Michelle Muscat acceptable, nay, hilarious, it is only fair that they are subjected to the same themselves. headphones

30/10/2017

Manuel Zammit

Manuel Zammit

This is what I wrote and what was removed by the "freedom of speech" loving Malta Independent on the publication of the names of the persons who were to address yesterday's demonstration in Sliema. "Andrew Borg Cardona - is this the lawyer of the "bitch" and "mof" refined speeches and the one wearing a hat and with the outstretched arm during the rendition of the Maltese National Anthem in front of the Law Courts - which he thinks are his personal domain?" This was accompanied by a picture showing this refined lawyer at the protest in front of the Law Courts.

30/10/2017

Joe Attard

Joe Attard

Freedom of speech in Malta is a political aberration:if you attack someone : its freedom of speech: if they attack you, its abuse! The late DCG blogs-RIP- were NOT a good example of freedom of speech; if anything these blogs were a caricature of freedom of speech ! No dissenting comment was ever tolerated! As for Zarb,s comments these are as abusive as Bocca,s rantings against labour bitches, and mother f.ckers; and as hateful as the late DCG's abuse against Labour women-( including President) humiliated and described in the most degenerative terms: low IQ,fat,short,bogans: in speech, clothing attitudes, unrefined,whores, corrupt, sluts running after married men etc etc! I wonder if any of the foreign journos have ever read any of her blogs!

30/10/2017

akweXxI

akweXxI

Indeed, the answer to your first question lies within. The freedom in and of itself is absolute. He is perfectly free to say what he wants; and in fact he did. He was not prevented from saying what he wished to say. This question as to consequences is different. Was it insensitive? I jolly well think so, but one can live with that ultimately. However, where free speech intrudes over other rights, then the law kicks in - hence the Criminal Code articles being cited as breached by this charming gentleman. And here is the key point: it is only the law that gives and restrains the right to express oneself. If you feel aggrieved, take it up before the courts; but do not block free expression at the outset - in a worst case by eliminating the voice completely. It is sad to have to be discussing these basic tenets of democracy in 2017. We are forest dwellers ultimately. Not sure what we’ve been doing in the EU these past 13 years.

30/10/2017

M Borg

M Borg

Free speech has its limitations, in that it is balanced against the right to be protected against hate speech, threats of violence, defamation etc. Mr. Zarb’s comments, seeing his role as a public figure and the context in which is was said, could have been perceived by the women there as a threat — they are prostitues, traitors and assassins. What does one do with women like that? His comment of ‘I am sure they will some someone to warm them up’ ... could be felt to have undertones of the kind of sexual violence threats women receive. If he did not think that some would feel that way, then he is even more stupid than he looks. No, it’s not a cotton-wool generation of women who are over sensitive. It’s a generation of women fed-up of being threaten to shut up (jew nigi ghalik u nifqak - said in parliament in 2016), of being told they are sluts, of perpetrators of domestic violence being lightly punished and of not being taken seriously. Do not compare Chetcuti’s onion comment to this, just for the sake of sounding non-partisan because there is a gulf of difference in the the context, meaning and underlying intent. One is threatening, the other is an insult.

30/10/2017

Kris

Kris

Freedom of speech is freedom of speech. Its either you accept it or you don't but certain people want it one way. I answer posts in the times of malta and malta independent without insulting anyone but I am totally blocked by the times of malta and sometimes blocked by malta independent. And one can see the editors of these dailies in the front line protesting for freedom of speech. Freedom of speech in Malta has an agenda from certain quarters.

30/10/2017

PETER MALLIA

PETER MALLIA

I agree with much of what has been said, however, comparing tony zarbs post to kristina chetcuti's is not right. One post is criticisizing a public figure appointed politically, the other is criticisizing civil protestors. Very different. Secondly, the fact that Zarb remains unpunished for such comments by his employers (joseph muscat only condemned after being questionned by journalists and after comparing it to other comments) also goes to demonstrate the state of the country. Free for all where no one is responsabile for their actions. But when you have yoir right hand minister and chief of staff caught with their pants down opening tax exading structures and nothing is done, than it is hard to imagine anyone bearing responsability for anything.

30/10/2017

SLAM BAM

SLAM BAM

So why don't the white farmers leave already!? Once they leave, there will be no more food for the SA population, at all. I can already hear them begging the UN for support because they are starving.

28/10/2017

PacificaRose

PacificaRose

I have trouble posting links here. But Americans who'd like to offer asylum to White South Africans can contact President Trump by searching: Get in Touch with The White House

27/10/2017

Boer Jan

Boer Jan

I would like the link to that ISIS page, do someone have it?

04/10/2017

Afrikanus

Afrikanus

Ek het nie 'n goeie gevoel oor hierdie man nie. Wikipedia: Matriek klaargemaak, diensplig gedoen, sewe jaar die regte gestudeer, toe tou opgegee en nie klaargemaak nie, en daarna die politiek toegetree. Klink soos verskeie Duitse politici wat ook nie klaar kon maak nie, elders in hulle lewe mislukkings was, en toe die gaping gesien het politici te raak, want daarso ry jy die soustrein, solank jy die regte geluide vir die diep staat maak. Met ander woorde jy raak maar deel van die ou gevestigde orde. As dit so is, dan is dit verraad aan sy kieserspubliek. Die kiesers is dan die wat regs geswaai het, maar hy het vanaf 'n akademiese mislukking nou 'n lekker joppie met al sy byvoordele toe gespring! Met voordele wat hy in die normale arbeidsmark (insluitende top akademici of goedgekwalifiseerde spesialiste in die privaatsektor) na hoeveel jare se harde werk nooit sou kon bereik nie. Hopelik is ek verkeerd.

21/10/2017

Afrikanus

Afrikanus

Wat moet mens hiervan dink - 'n taktiese skuif, of eenvoudig net te lig in die broek? Deurdat hy se dat hy nog 'n jong politikus is, kom hy so half apologeties (asof hy aan homself twyfel, so bietjie onseker oor homself) oor. Dit laat mens wonder wat sal hy doen as hy met regtig taai situasies in die politiek gekonfronteer word. Op die ander kant - wat sou mens doen as mens in sy skoene gestaan het? Kurz paai die diep staat in Amerika:

21/10/2017

Johnnycongo

Johnnycongo

Die internasionale ommeswaai na regs moet seker vir liberales met of sonder kopdoeke of 'n geween baie erg wees?

20/10/2017

Mr Domestos

Mr Domestos

Deel van Afrikaner se probleem is die gebrek aan 'n "gesig". Macron het nie veel idees gehad nie (behalwe sy ma-issues), Trudeau se persoonlikheid rym met voos en tog het hul die verkiesings gewen sonder spesifieke party-beloftes. As Afrikaans wil oorleef is daar geweldig baie PR werk voor om te doen - die "image" probleem moet eers opgelos word voor daar enige sprake wees van werkbare voortbestaan. Dink ekke so by myself...

18/10/2017

Skisofreen

Skisofreen

Interessant. Politiek is inderdaad 'n sprokiesverhaal!

18/10/2017

John

John

Otto Griebling. En vele ander karakters uit sprokies verhale. Wat ag jy as kort ?

18/10/2017

Afrikanus

Afrikanus

Ek hoop mnr. Kurz beskik oor goeie lyfwagte. Ek het in my lewe geleer: die gewone man op die straat besluit nie aan die hand van "dink" (hy probeer nie die agtergronde te verstaan of ontleed nie) nie, maar op "sien" (hy reageer volgens wat hy op straat sien en in die media lees). En ek verwag die vyandelike entiteite natuurlik nou hulle pogings sal versnel om hierdie gevaar van regs uit te skakel. En ek wonder wanneer sal 'n skyn-regse party geskep word, ene wat deur 'n linkse in die mondering van 'n regse gelei word, om die volk om die bos te lei en te neutraliseer. Ek hoop die swaai na regs bou momentum op. Dit kan net goed vir blank Suid-Afrika wees. 'n Jongerige man aan die stuur van sake - kan goed wees, want hy het nog lewenskrag sonder die las van te veel kennis in hom wat hom kan terughou. Solank sy adviseurs bekwaam is. Daar was 'n ander man uit Oostenryk wat ook groot hoogtes bereik het vir die Europese geskiedenis, en hy was van 'n harder geaardheid, omdat hy nog deur die meul van die Eerste Wereldoorlog gegaan het. Uit 'n webblad oor Oostenrykers wat geskiedenis oor baie eeue heen geskryf het (afstammelinge van hierdie mense bly vandag ook in Suid-Afrika): "Occasionally in history, there comes along an individual who puts honor and principle above their own personal needs, a person who believes in something so strongly that they enter into a struggle armed with the knowledge that their beliefs may cost them everything dearest in life and perhaps even life itself." (Soms kom daar in die geskiedenis 'n individu wat eer en beginsel bo hul eie persoonlike behoeftes stel, 'n persoon wat in iets so sterk glo dat hulle 'n stryd betree met die wete dat hulle oortuigings alles kosbaars in die lewe en miskien selfs die lewe kan kos.) (Bron: http://www.exulanten.com/JOSEPHSCHAITBERGER.html)

18/10/2017

John

John

Hans ek is bevrees dat die Joodse 'probleem' baie soortgelyk is aan die swart verslawing wat heers in Suid Afrika - dit is daar want die blanke kan nie daar sonder nie. So lank as wat daardie luiheid by blankes voortduur, vir so lank sal daar 'n Joodse finansier wees vir die luiheid. En vir so lank as wat die 'heilige Jerusalem' sprokie in die koppe van die Florida pensionarisse bestaan, vir so lank sal die selfde Jode ook hul eie land besit, vry van gentiles wie die gunsies dalk terug wil betaal. Wat 'n jammerte dat daardie poging van Mev Clinton toe nou nie die lig gesien het nie.

17/10/2017

Skisofreen

Skisofreen

Kurz = Kort. Hoeveel "kort" Duitsers ken julle. Watter kort mense kom uit daardie geweste?

17/10/2017

Hans Onrust

Hans Onrust

Zelfs ook Jan Roos durft waar het 'Europa' of beter EUSSR betreft, nu een sprongetje te maken naar de USSR. Het begint bijna vermakelijk te worden. Ware het niet dat er zoveel dood en ellende uit voortkomt.

17/10/2017

Hans Onrust

Hans Onrust

Deze 'migratie' gaat in ieder geval altijd in elke volksvijandige WE EUSSRepubliek ten koste van de autochtone bevolkingen en heeft overduidelijk Genocidale kenmerken. Vanaf de jaren '60 worden de miljoenen directe en indirecte slachtoffers in de donkerte afgevoerd en in de kou gelaten. Waar het misdaad betreft en ook maatschappelijke vervanging op de werkvloer etc. Maar met die laatste zin zit u ook in de goede richting, John. Zelfs ook in de DDR had de RK kerk een streepje voor wat bijv. zichtbaar was in het technisch onderhoud van de kathedralen. Maar als u wilt weten wie er nog meer van weet en er juist bepalend in is, kan u niet om het volgende boek van Dr. Wolfgang Gedeon heen : http://www.wgmeister.de/gedeon-buecher/der-gruene-kommunismus/ Foto : Merkel krijgt een prijs van B'nai B'rith Dr. Wolfgang Gedeon geeft bijv. in bovengenoemd boek aan dat de Zentralrat der Juden, die valselijk pretenderen voor de of alle Joden op te komen, meer politieke macht heeft dan de Bundespresident als staatkundig hoogste politiek orgaan.(actueel narcistische blaaskaak F.W. Steinmeyer) De door Joodse orgs. georganiseerde Joodse volkstelling in Nederland in 1937 is MEER dan verdacht en er wordt heden in Nederland veel te makkelijk heen gestapt over destijdse Joodse verraders die jacht maakten op Joden ! Kijk een hoe het later de talentvolle rechtgeaarde intelligente wereldkampioen schaken Bobby Fischer verging in het zogenaamde 'vrije Westen'....... Werd gewoon onder stuwende krachten als nijd en jaloezie openlijk door het slijk getrokken, kaal geplukt, zonder enige wetenschappelijke basis voor gek verklaard, verdreven en de dood ingejaagd. Een grove schande en smerige misdaad. Voorts is het onderstaande betoog van de vermaarde goed geïnformeerde Dr. David Duke midden in de roos(in die kol)

17/10/2017

John

John

Totale Bevolking Duitsland : 82 000 000 Oostenryk :8 500 000 Immigrante / buitelanders Duitsland : Meer as 16 000 000 Oostenryk : Minder as 200 000 Die verskil is dat die (historiese) immigrante na Oostenryk daarheen getrek het vir `n rede - omdat hulle welaf was en vooruitstrewend. Dis juis hulle wie hoop die gemors bly uit. Aan die oorkant is dit die 16 miljoen verkragters wie ook gestem het - vir meer verkragters. Ek het ook so vermoede dat die Katoolse kerk (87% van die bevolking) weereens meer weet van verskansing as die Protestante en evangelie verligtes in Duitsland.

17/10/2017

Charles

Charles

Dankie Hans! Dis byna te goed om waar te wees! Ek is in die 7de Hemel! Europa is besig om op te staan, en die verstikkende, onnodige en siek polities byderwetse juk van hul af te skud. Merkel is op haar einde...die ou heks... (ek sweer sy is "Darth Sidius" se suster) Die Westerse Wereld is besig om te se " wag net so 'n bietjie: tot HIER toe, en nie verder nie !". Dit is net in Suid-Afrika, wat gewoonlik so 20 jaar agter die res v/d wereld en die nuutste politiese en maatskaplike verwikkelinge is, dat ons nog met hierdie verstikkende politiese korrektheid sit, danksy die liberale Joodse en Engelsgesinde gespuis. (wat waag; en die vermetelheid het; om hulself "media en joernalisme" te noem - lmga. Maar wag, die verfoeilike goed se tyd kom nog, wag net, elke hond kry sy dag...

17/10/2017

Charles

Charles

Wonderlik!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

17/10/2017

Hans Onrust

Hans Onrust

De zich in de anti Europese anti christ EUSSR als een vis in het water voelende geestelijk zieke spin doctor van de SPÖ, Tal Silberstein, die volgens de Talmud dus wel moet liegen en bedriegen en dus ook veel van belastinggeld duur betaald werk verzette om Kurz als recht extreem af te schilderen, heeft zojuist Mozart een nazi genoemd ;-) https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.806828 Zal binnenkort mogelijk wel voor de show in 'rehab' gaan. Samen met misdadige hollywood dirigent Weinstein enzo. De destijds voortdurend op de huid gezeten Jörg Haider kan het allemaal niet meer meemaken na zijn 'auto ongeluk'. Zoals ook bekend van de moord op Pim Fortuyn geeft de titel 'homo' geen vrijwaring door de radicaal linkse hordes en hun 'Drahtzieher', als het volksvijandig element ontbreekt. Voor de vuist weg, in het Luther jaar 2017 (in 1517 startte hij als Protestant), nog even een quote : "Friede wenn möglich, aber Wahrheit auf jeden Fall."

16/10/2017