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Johan Kruger

Johan Kruger

Agree!

02/11/2017

Helen Zille

Helen Zille

pymnts Being a political leader does not mean issuing orders that everyone else has to agree with. It means leading rational, open debate that results in a clear decision based on the merits of competing arguments. Sometimes a leader wins a debate, other times s/he doesn't.

01/11/2017

KayCee

KayCee

That is neither here nor there, since the ANC will not be in power for long.

01/11/2017

John Milton

John Milton

Just be quiet unless you are going to tell us how much money you have stolen, cretin. pymnts

01/11/2017

Anthony Caenazzo

Anthony Caenazzo

The people of Ekurhuleni will be rejoicing at your decision to resign. You are a known Zuma supporter and he is the most corrupt person in South Africa. So how can you say "I will never support an ANC that is corrupt"? NDZ has promised that she will continue with the actions initiated by Jacob meaning that she will support corruption because she will also benefit and she will support Zuma in his quest to not see jail time for even the 783 charges he will face when he leaves office.

01/11/2017

Human7002

Human7002

Agree completely with your last sentence.

01/11/2017

rangerman

rangerman

Yeah well the DA are just as useless unfortunately. They sold out to race politics and I really am sick of South Africa's sh1t.angry people with pathetic leadership in a sinking economy. The lie that it's "the most beautiful country on earth" can only really be sold to halfwits and poor people who can't afford satellite tv or travel. Let the majority have what they want, they need to find out that it's not what they need.

01/11/2017

Human7002

Human7002

There's that saying, "The problem with choosing the lesser of two evils, is reminding the person they still choosing evil"...

01/11/2017

rangerman

rangerman

Agreed. Zuma is set to hold on to power through his proxy ex wife. Then return to power after 4 years. Like Putin.

01/11/2017

rangerman

rangerman

"Any worse" is not very encouraging. Put your faith in the unionist billionaire liar if you want. That's your right.

01/11/2017

rangerman

rangerman

What a joke. Ramapoesa is just as corrupt as any anc cadre. He is also a coward. The entire anc must burn in hell.

01/11/2017

Bruce McDonald

Bruce McDonald

Hope springs eternal...

01/11/2017

Zeph

Zeph

I think no on can beat Zuma. Not even now. The ANC is utterly corrupted - they all know what needs to be done but it would stop certain taps that they enjoy flowing. And any reforms needed to get us on track would be negotiated away. He will be ineffective to effect the dramatic changes because the pigs will boot him out is he does try. We are willfully following a few off the edge. The Pied Piper of Hamilen has relevance in Africa too.

01/11/2017

Paul Chinchen

Paul Chinchen

An even chance for 2019. A definite by 2024.

01/11/2017

Spyti K

Spyti K

Say what you will about the man, but there can be no doubt that he is a master negotiator and a very shrewd politician. For the moment I choose to believe that he played the long game with regards to Zuma and his own Presidential aspirations. There was simply no way in which he or anyone could have defeated Jacob Zuma in '07 while the Youth League, COSATU and SACP were still extremely vocal in their support for him. Roll on to '12 and he suddenly has a choice between going against Zuma then, when he was still extremely strong prior to the scandals and PP reports, or Kgalema Motlhante a few years down the line, while knowing full well that Zuma cannot serve more than two terms as ANC President. If that choice had been presented to me, I would've made the same one. During this time he was also smart enough to cement his place as Deputy ANC President, knowing full well the culture and tradition inside the ANC that generally elects the current Deputy President as the next President. Our difference in opinion aside, I just can't see how Ramaphosa as President can in any way be worse than what we currently have and will continue to have in the event that NDZ is elected as President in name only. Time will have to tell here, but on face value, I think Cyril is the lesser of two evils.

01/11/2017

Human7002

Human7002

I think that is a fair and well thought out assessment of what could potentially happen

01/11/2017

Rob Bayliss

Rob Bayliss

Judging from the attitudes and pronouncements of many they actually belive that sticky fingers, brown bags, finder's fees, inducements, bonifications and, and, and...are all model practices in an African context. Actually, I wonder how much of Africa would collapse if all such practices were to cease immediatley?

01/11/2017

Zeph

Zeph

Ramaphosa and his 'frog in the pot' analogy is disturbing, especially because it ends ratcheting it up till whites have nothing. This was his view twenty odd years ago - I see no reason for him to have changed viewpoint (unless he has had the insight that meddling in numbers where the market should decide is a recipe for disaster - socially and economically. I see no proof that this is so. And eating caviar and buying million rand bulls is not proof of this)

01/11/2017

Spyti K

Spyti K

I don't see any chance of the ANC being relegated to the opposition benches after the 2019 elections. They will still win and it's really only a question of the margin they win by and that margin completely depends on the candidate elected in December. On the provincial front, the DA is still the likely victor in the Western Cape, but they would have a fair chance of victory in the Eastern Cape and Gauteng in the event that Dlamini-Zuma is elected. It's a well known fact that Ramaphosa has vast appeal to both the urban voters in Gauteng and the traditional Xhosa support base in the Eastern Cape thanks to his struggle credentials, so if he's elected in December, the ANC's chances there would improve dramatically, while the opposite is true for the Northern Cape, North West, Free State, Kwazulu-Natal and Mpumalanga. How big the swing will eventually be, I cannot say and I have no idea what the political climate in Limpopo is like. The clincher, however, is the fact that the Zuma camp cannot afford the de facto loss of Gauteng province. Given the fact that they've already lost the metro's, the loss of the Province will mean that they've effectively lost "control" of nearly half the nation's economy and close to a third of the population in combination with the Western Cape, which will deal a massive blow to their ability to fund their patronage network. If this happens all bets on how they would maintain their grip on power are off. Just a layman's opinion.

01/11/2017

Human7002

Human7002

Fair enough, I suppose its always easy to assume the worst options. And 2019 is far far away when the problems we have are so urgent. Do you think there is a real possibility of them be out after 2019 elections?

01/11/2017

Paul Chinchen

Paul Chinchen

In my view Cyril will be in - therefore SA will not sink. But the anc will still be the party in charge until 2019 at least and so the tooth ache continues.

01/11/2017

Human7002

Human7002

I would suppose that is also an option and completely plausible, although I would ask you, why you would think this may be the case?

01/11/2017

Patrick Sibeko

Patrick Sibeko

Minus 1 arrogant problem, just resign and stop making it look like ANC is dead without you, factionalist

01/11/2017

Paul Chinchen

Paul Chinchen

May I suggest that December will actually do neither of these things - it will simply prolong the agony.

01/11/2017

Paul Chinchen

Paul Chinchen

There, there now - that's okay. You don't have to - you will be removed.

01/11/2017

Human7002

Human7002

You might laugh, but the ANC has been very effective in taking control, maintaining power and directing the narrative...the economy and everything else might be falling apart but being politicians is what the ANC do best...if you never underestimate anyone they will never take you by surprise ;)

01/11/2017

upyourbum

upyourbum

LOL pretty strong but its sink or swim time? Do you even..

01/11/2017

Human7002

Human7002

I am of the same opinion, NDZ would be the death blow for this country.

01/11/2017

upyourbum

upyourbum

So leave, don't be such a drama queen about it..

01/11/2017

Human7002

Human7002

I agree. He seems the most viable choice out of a lot of options.

01/11/2017

Spyti K

Spyti K

It's simple. If NDZ wins I'm packing my bags and getting out, if CR wins I'll tough it out for a few more years.

01/11/2017

Spyti K

Spyti K

A little paranoid in my book, but to each his own.

01/11/2017

Spyti K

Spyti K

In this particular case I think it's a matter of the mayor knowing that there would be no discernible difference between a Ramaphosa Presidency and the opposition parties for them; they will be properly investigated, charged and found guilty of a vast array of criminal charges and enterprises. Let people say about him what they will, but believe that he's the only man in the ANC at the moment that is capable of improving the situation of both the country and the ANC as President.

01/11/2017

Human7002

Human7002

People are starting to crack, more of the same and some will start to break...

01/11/2017

Human7002

Human7002

No they don't do they, although their political strategy is pretty strong

01/11/2017

Steven Seagull

Steven Seagull

The anc don't exactly have a history of making good choices though.

01/11/2017

Steven Seagull

Steven Seagull

This is absolute South African Politics. The deciding factor is who can screw the white minority the most. Nothing else matters most voters.

01/11/2017

Human7002

Human7002

This December will either save or sink SA

01/11/2017

Walter Spatula

Walter Spatula

I don't care.

01/11/2017

Bernard Hellberg

Bernard Hellberg

You're only a mayor and come the next election you'll be at the intersection with a beggar's cardboard around your neck😄

01/11/2017

Spyti K

Spyti K

''If Nkosazana loses, white people will lead SA. I will not be part of it. I will not be mayor of Ekurhuleni, but I will leave the ANC in power,'' he said. That's the gist of it folks, it's all still about race and racism in the minds of certain folks.

01/11/2017

Tim Bester

Tim Bester

...both, I am afraid...

01/11/2017

Telford Barietsile

Telford Barietsile

It's interesting how he thinks the threat of corruption is from the CR17 group, rather than the one he is a part of. Either he is incredibly stupid, or he has also been captured.

01/11/2017

disqus_2b8dpIM1y3

disqus_2b8dpIM1y3

He he he...I think to myself, what a relief. Soon the DA will have 1 less corrupt cadre to replace..! BUT...that is not going to let you of the hook for past atrocities Masina..!!

01/11/2017

disqus_2b8dpIM1y3

disqus_2b8dpIM1y3

Nope...

01/11/2017

MikeSa

MikeSa

Dear Mr Masina the sooner you go the better because we do not get any maintenance of our infrastructure here in Ekurhuleni which is collapsing.

01/11/2017

Jurie Nel

Jurie Nel

And may I add - did this silly little item really warrant an announcement?

01/11/2017

Andy Burger

Andy Burger

Masina, the sooner you bugger off the better so that we can get someone to run the Metro who knows what he or she is doing.

01/11/2017

Jon Quirk

Jon Quirk

Mr Masina, rest assured you will not be asked to or allowed to. It is throwing out the corrupt leaders that hopefully this election will be all about.

01/11/2017

Carlos Danger

Carlos Danger

Things are hotting up. Much more to come by December...........................

31/10/2017